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Separation of Church and State

by Eric Michael Eastman

           Do you want an exciting recipe for your  next  holiday gathering?  No, not just for something like the 4th of July which just passed.  Try this and your holiday (or for the matter any social gathering) will be festive to say the least.  First, put together a collection of good people.  These people can be family, friends, neighbors co-workers - you decide.   (A little side note - your really might want to give a second perusal to the invites going out to family; after all family will be family.)  Second, you have to have a good spread of food ready to be eaten and have more than enough.  (A quick note about health items such as tofu and such . . . not today.)   Lastly, after dinner when folks tend to drift apart and do their favorite solitary thing, gather them all up with a friendly invitation  to talk and share with everyone.

         It's a great way to bring people out of their shells, and there really is nothing better than an all inclusive debate on a topic  to get people's adrenalin going.  What could we talk about that would not be to controversial and in the end give us all a fairly good chance of still wanting to actually talk to each othe?.   I chose politics and religion.  Yeah,  I know, I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier  but I figured these are people that I know, surely we can all discuss a subject, any subject, with the love of Christ, right....right......

          Which brings me to that pivotal moment when I said "You know, I've been doing some research lately and I've discovered something that I didn't know.  Did you know that this country was not formed to be a Christian Nation?"  Well this wasn't an  E. F. Hutton moment, where silence grips everyone and they are hanging on my next word.  However, in a gathering like this one, where everyone loves Jesus and lives like it, I was treading on sacred ground.  Then out of the silence someone said, Eric, what are you talking about?  Seizing the moment, I said . . .

           The 1st Amendment of the constitution says  "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people to peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

           This is the cornerstone for many in the continual debate on Separation of Church and State, the 1st Amendment of the United States Constitution.  "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"  As for me, the wording seems to be clear, with no room for misinterpretation.  For some people the first amendment and the Constitution say something totally different.

The Constitution is a secular document.  Nowhere does it appeal to God, Christianity, Jesus, or any other supreme being.  The Constitution does not include the phrase "Separation of Church and State," neither does it say "Freedom of Religion."   However, the Constitution implies both in the 1st Amendment.  As to the separation, Congress shall make no law respecting and establishment of religion.  As to freedom of religion, Congress shall make no law . . . or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

 

What do you think of these statements?  "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never has entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”

What you have just read is Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli.  In 1796, near the end of George Washington's second term, the United States was having problems with pirates operating off the Barbary coast and the area of Tripoli (in what is now Libya).  U.S. shipping was being destroyed and seamen were being held as prisoners.  It was hoped that better diplomatic relations with incentives to Tripoli would solve this problem.

Why was language in this tone in Article 11?  Tripoli at this time was a Muslim nation.  Tripoli had concerns because of their perceptions of America as being a Christian nation that war between the two nations may ensue based on religion.  President John Adams sent the treaty to the Senate in late May 1797.  A committee considered the treaty and recommended ratification.  By a unanimous vote, the United States Senate ratified the treaty.

Don't take my word for it, look it up for yourself.  In today's world, you better get used to checking what you read, see and hear because lying has become serious business.  There are some people out there today who want you to think a certain way, act a certain way, be a certain way . These same people have no problem resorting to lying to accomplish their goal.  This is what I think on this issue - tell me what you think.  Let's be civil to each other.  I really don't subscribe to the political demonizing of people and name calling.  In the end what does it really accomplish?  The real victory in conversing is when it’s completed both parties get something out of the dialogue and it strengthens it's participants.   If you are afraid of ideas different from your own, you'll probably want to skip down on the web site when you see my name next time.  If you don't agree with me and my view that's fine too, just give me something to support what you are saying so that I may check what you say and learn from what you know.  What qualifications to I have to be writing this information?  The same as you , I'm a concerned citizen with an opinion.  Until next time.

 

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